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- Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 6:50pm #15847
CodySLCParticipantWho will the jazz pick in the draft? Its hard to tell who will be left by the ninth pick. Obviously with no Boozer were gonna need a big to back up Millsap and Okur. DeMarcus Cousins and Derrick Favors will go top 5. Greg Monroe or Cole Aldrich will hopefully still be there, I’d take either one. If not should we take a chance on someone like Hassan Whiteside or Donatas Motiejunas who have big upside? Or someone who could contribute right away like Udoh, Patterson or Davis? I think we need to go for size and shot blocking.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 7:05pm #317732
ilmagoParticipant…that either Monroe or Aldrich will still be there, even though they are great for Sloan’s game. I say either Udoh or Davis. Whiteside has huge upside, but he basically played against high school level teams. Motiejunas is a huge question mark. He can be a Bargnani…and at 9 I’d take it, but he could also be the next….what was the name of the Russian guys the Clippers wasted the 12th pick on??? Karovlev or something…. I’d go safe..the Jazz are a solid team, but have money issues. There is NO need to gamble with the 9th pick
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 7:06pm #317734
IndianaBasketballParticipantI think the Jazz should pick a player that can contribute right away. I’m not one of those people who believe that Boozer will be back, so I think they should pick a big.
Monroe
Aldrich
Udoh
Davis
Patterson0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 7:15pm #317740
the27guyParticipantThanks for the post. I didn’t want to do another Jazz post, but I’m glad someone did.
All along I’ve felt that we had a good shot to re-sign Booz, and I still do. If the Jazz are willing to give him $14-$15 mil/yr for 5 years, they’ll get him, but I don’t think it’s smart. I feel like it would be much smarter gaining some cap space, drafting another PF with the #9 pick, and then moving forward.
Most Jazz fans really want a center, but I don’t see the impact center available at $9 that the Jazz need. Aldrich is undersized, although we should work him out and give some serious consideration to him. Hassan Whiteside is very intriguing as well, but maybe not as ready as we’d like. Plus, the Jazz already have three centers that are projects in Ante Tomic, Fesenko, and Koufos. Unless they decide Aldrich is an instant impact guy and he’s available at 9, then I think the team has to look at the PF position, which this draft is laden with. I have 2 guys who I’m most excited about,
#2 Greg Monroe- A guy with his athleticism, length, and passing is a dream in the Jazz system, but I really feel like Detroit is going to take him. He is exactly what they need. I wish he was more intense, and played a bit tougher on defense
#1 Epke Udoh- I have a feeling this is our guy. He’s long, an excellent defender and a decent ball handler for a 6-10 guy. He’s a poor man’s (Very poor) Kevin Garnett, but he seems to a hard worker, and a quality guy who would work well in Sloan’s system. I think his stock is really going to rise once workouts begin.
Fortunately, there are enough good bigs in this draft that either Udoh, Monroe, Aldrich, or even Ed Davis has to fall to the Jazz.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 7:19pm #317743
sammybuckeye13ParticipantIf they took Patterson or Davis I would go nuts. I understand Patterson is tough, and Davis is a superb shot-blocker, but what happens when they run into the Lakers again? Gasol and Bynum both have 3 inches on them, that’s what. The Jazz need real size, and they’re lucky to be drafting in the deepest pool of shot blockers in memory. Aldrich might no be 7-feet, but he’s very long and has terrific defensive instincts; averaging 3.5 blocks in 26 minutes for a Big 12 school is no fluke. Monroe, a terrific passer with a huge bball IQ would be perfect for Sloan’s system, agreed, but he’ll likely be snatched up before. Udoh also surrenders a couple inches to the Gasols and Bynums of the league, but he’s extremely athletic and bouncy and active and blocked even more shots than Aldrich. One of these guys will be available when they pick, than in itself is comforting.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 7:20pm #317744
stanford hoopswhy is cole at 6’10-6’11 and long arms undersized at center?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 7:27pm #317752
the27guyParticipantI think Jazz fans that are sick of losing to the Lakers (who happen to have multiple 7 footers would consider him undersized simply because he’s not as big as Gasol or Bynum.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 8:27pm #317785
HypnotoadParticipantYou silly-bananas. I’ve already made the Epic Jazz Topic. There is no need to discuss anything further.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 8:36pm #317786
JazzinSLCParticipantI really think the Jazz should select Udoh if he’s still available. He seems to be ever improving, and is a tremendous shot blocker. He’s also very athletic, a good offensive rebounder, runs the floor well, and has a decent shot with a little range.
My concerns with Aldridge…lack of athleticism. He also doesn’t have a very high ceiling.
My concerns with Monroe…very soft on the defensive end (for a guy with his skill set), and lacks toughness.
My concerns with Whiteside…a few off the court questions, and a very limited offensive game. Could develop, but he’s a project type, and how long will Deron Williams stick around if he doesn’t think the team is getting any better.
My concerns with Davis…solid in a number of areas, but not spectacular at anything. He’s also at least an inch shorter then these other guys.
I really think Udoh might be the way to go. If you look at his stats last season compared to the other four players I’ve mentioned above, here is how he stacks up.
Points: He is second only to Monroe.
Rebounds: He is tied for first with Aldrich.
Blocks: He is second only to Whiteside.He’s the only guy of the five players who finishes in the top two in all three categories (points, rebounds, blocks) as far as how they all fair head to head.
0- Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 8:55pm #317791
CodySLCParticipantThe only question with Edoh is his potential to get better. He is one of the older players in the draft. He can make an impact right away defensively but how much better will he get.
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- Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 9:13pm #317798
ilike.panochasParticipantAfter getting destroyed by the Lakers, there is no way the Jazz draft a player shorter than 6’10. The ideal player would be Cole Aldrich, he seems like a “Jerry Sloan type player”. They can also reach for a 7 footer like Hassan Whiteside, but if he pays off, the reward can be enormous. Regardless, they need to draft the best center available.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/18/2010 - 11:34pm #317824
Lodzio20ParticipantAldrich is a bust!!!i swear
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 2:06am #317838
McWinningParticipantI agree Cole isnt undersized. Since they didnt get a high pick hes a perfect fit for them, Okurs not a true center and as aging and Aldrich can step in right away and help, hes gonna be a Kendrick Perkins typ player, prime number 10 9 2, i dont think hell ever be a great offensive player but is a safe pick, and fits in well with Sloam.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 7:46am #317907
cycloParticipantFor size, the Jazz just need 6’11” Mehmet Okur back and continue to develop 7’0″ Kosta Koufos.
The Jazz need to keep Boozer. Losing Boozer would be a step backwards for the Jazz, just as replacing Ronnie Brewer with Wesley Matthews was a step backwards.
The Jazz need a talented SG/SF at #9.
Wesley Matthews and CJ Miles are NOT the answers. These guys would be bench players on other teams and possibly cut.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 8:01am #317922
CodySLCParticipantLength and Shot blocking. I think we should take whiteside his potential his huge.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 9:45am #317955
JazzinSLCParticipantI couldn’t disagree more about Wesley Matthews. That kid is a terrific player. Miles has shown a great deal of improvement also.
The point about Udoh is that he has shown great improvement over the last season. He may be older, but his game is still growing. It’s hard to judge Whiteside, because he really hasn’t played against the top competition. When the individual teams bring him in for personal workouts leading up to the draft, we’ll learn alot more about him I think.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:27am #317972
stanford hoopsi rather have that concern about being a great athlete at center..a position where you dont need to be a great athlete to be good…b.haywood,lopez,kendrick perkins,marc gasol…then a good athlete who is just potential. and we dont know what celing cole or any of the other guys have
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 11:01am #317990
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantIf Monroe is there at 9…You have to take him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 12:11pm #318049
IknoBall12Participantthe jazz need to shake their team up. What is th epoint of signing Carlos Boozer when they are goin to have the same undersized team? they are eventually gonna run into the lakers and again the lakers size will defeat the jazz. I think they need 2 shake things up. boozer jus struggles too much against gasol
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 3:50pm #318204
jazznationpresidentParticipantWe defiantly need to big with where we are at. I agree with sot of the comments, udoh is likely to be the best option. His athleticism makes him a descent insideshot blocker for us. Size her is relative. Two points. First fees has plenty of size but he sucks so it didn’t make any difference against the lakers. Serga (sp?) did well against the lakers which was why the lakers had a tougher time with them. We need an athletic big to come in for millsap or okur that can keep us safe on the defensive end.
I think Aldrich would be fine but we need athleticism. I would have loved to get a nice2 or 3 but that isn’t what this draft is about…. Would haved loved to get turner….
I do think that miles and mat hews played awesome in the series. I think miles is finally maturing. Matthwes was a steal. He will lock Kobe down next year or the year after ( Kobe is bound to show his age sometime).
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 3:54pm #318206
midwestbbscoutParticipantI keep coming back to Eddy Davis at this pick but I have nothing to back it up really…..they are going to try and replenish their frontline I guess is my backup…..but Epke Udoh is fast on the rise so they could take him too and Patterson is more like a clone of Boozer but I think Patterson is a bust in the top ten….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:20pm #318226
butidonthavemoneyThe Jazz will take whoever is available out of Greg Monroe and Cole Aldrich. If both are gone, they will take Ekpe Udoh.
I love Eddie Davis, and he’s always been one of my favorite players to watch, but I can’t see the Jazz taking him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:27pm #318228
cycloParticipantRonnie Brewer was better than Wes Matthews.
Wes Matthews and CJ Miles are mediocre NBA players and unworthy of being starters.
If those guys are the Jazz’ starting SG and SF, the Jazz will NEVER go anywhere.
Not while other teams have guys like Brandan Roy, Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant, Caron Butler, Jason Richardson, etc. at those positions.
Kobe Bryant just toyed with Wes Matthews and CJ Miles. It was a joke. The Jazz have ZERO chance of winning ANYTHING with those two journeyman-types starting.
Replacing Boozer with some big man at #9 would be a step backwards. Would the #9 pick be able to replace Boozers’ numbers? NO.
The Jazz have a choice. Re-sign Boozer or take another step backwards…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:30pm #318234
midwestbbscoutParticipantthe fact is that they may not have a choice on whether to re-sign Boozer or not….that choice is pretty much Boozer’s….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:33pm #318235
butidonthavemoneymidwest – No. It’s 100% Utah’s choice. He’ll stay if Utah pays what he wants (which I doubt).
cyclo – It’s Wesley Matthews. Not Wes Matthews. Your opinion is your opinion, but atleast learn what his name is.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:35pm #318236
midwestbbscoutParticipantWell then I think their investment in Paul Millsap has shown what their choice will be….I doubt that they tie up half their payroll at one position…..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/20/2010 - 1:58pm #318551
jazznationpresidentParticipantNo way, WesLey and cj had great games. Sure Kobe got his points but that wasn’t what killed the jazz. It was size. Miles had his best series, and remember in terms of age, he is like a rookie this last year. He and Wesley are the same age. Can it believe there is hating going on for a couple of youngsters. Both did tons better than brewer did lat year. What we need is a real small forward so korver, Wes and cj can rotate at the two. Andrea is really a 4, which means we don’t have a legit 3 at all and no backup center. I’ve lost all hope in kk and fes.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/20/2010 - 5:28pm #318707
wesleymatthews23ParticipantCyclo you obviously did not watch Matthews and Miles in playoffs. Both played very well. I do agree with you that we need a SF instead of Miles but I still like starting Matthews, and having Miles be his back up.
Unfortunately a SF will not be available at the 9th pick. Amin, Johnson should be gone by then and too early to go for George or Babbit. So I see the Jazz drafting a center or a power foward that can play a little defense. Maybe Aldrich or Udoh or possibly trade up with the Kings. Booz, 9th pick for Thompson, Nocioni, and the 5th pick.
0- Posted on: Thu, 05/20/2010 - 10:47pm #318859
CodySLCParticipantthat would be a good trade instead of letting booz go and getting nothing in return trade with the kings, pick up a young Thompson and a veteran Nocioni plus pick up either a DeMarcus Cousins, or Wesley Johnson with the kings 5th pick
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