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- Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 5:55pm #760376
phila9012Participantto me 6-4 to 6-6 is normal height, 6-7 is tall, 6-3 is short, under 6-3 is undersized.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 5:56pm #47820
benny15ParticipantThe ideal or good size for the SG spot before used to 6’6″. 6’5″ was considered okay and 6’4″ was already said to be undersized for the position. now that i think about in today’s league, how many 6’6″ starting shooting guards do we really have? is it already passable to have a 6’4″ combo guard starting as your 2? heres a break down of the different starting sg’s in the league if everybody was healthy. if you dont want to bother with the details, just skip, i’ll put up a summary in the end of the numbers.
Atlantic Division:
Boston-Avery Bradley-6’2″
Brooklyn-Joe Johnson-6’7″
New York-Priginoni/Kidd-6’3″/6’4″
Philly-Jason Richardson-6’6″
Toronto-DeMarr Derozan-6’7″6’4″ or less: 2
6’5″ or more: 3Central Division:
Chicago-Rip Hamilton-6’7″
Cleveland-Dion Waiters-6’4″
Detroit-Brandon Knight-6’3″
Indiana-Paul George-6’8″
Milwaukee-Monta Ellis-6’3″6’4″ or less: 3
6’5″ or more: 2Sout East Division:
Atlanta-Deshawn Stevenson-6’5″
Charlote-Gerald Henderson-6’4″
Miami-Dwayne Wade-6’4″
Orlando-Aaron Afflalo-6’5″
Washington-Bradley Beal-6’4″6’4″ or less: 3
6’5″ or more: 2South West Division:
Dallas-OJ Mayo-6’4″
Houston-James Harden-6’5″
Memphis-Tony Allen-6’4″
New Orleans-Eric Gordon-6’3″
San Antonio-Danny Green-6’6″6’4″ or less: 3
6’5″ or more: 2North West Divison:
Denver-Andre Iguodala-6’6″
Minnesota-Brandon Roy-6’5″
Portland-Wesley Mathews-6’5″
Oklahoma City-Thabo Sefolosho-6’6″
Utah-Randy Foye-6’4″6’4″ or less: 1
6’5″ or more: 4Pacific Division:
Golden State-Klay Thompson-6’7″
LA Clipps-Chauncey Billups-6’3″
LA Lakers-Kobe Bryant-6’6″
Phoneix-Wesley Johnson-6’7″
Sacramento-Tyreke Evans-6’6″6’4″ or less: 1
6’5″ or more: 4The numbers say that out of the 30 teams in the NBA, almost half of them employ 6’4″ or shorter starting shooting guards. Due to its trending effect, is 6’4″ still considered as undersized for the position or completely acceptable? in the eastern conference, there is actually more starting two’s 6’4″ or less than there are 6’5″ and taller.
should the perception of the size for the position change or be maintained to what it was?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 6:05pm #760377
Memphis MadnessParticipantI think that 6’6 or 6’7 shooting guards have been the exception rather than the rule.
MJ, Drexler, and Reggie Miller were tall, but Joe Dumars, Jeff Malone, and Byron Scott were not.I think 6’4 is a decent size with 6’5 and up being ideal. The 6’7 shooting guards are still rare.
On the other hand, the small forwards seem to be bigger, with LeBron playing at the 3 for most of his career and he
is built like Karl Malone. Rudy Gay and Carmelo Anthony are bigger 3’s.Then you have Kevin Durant who is a 6’9 small forward but a guy who might have been a shooting guard in the old days like a Jordan or
Drexler.Today’s league has more hybrid guys now with bigger forwards and many point guards but smaller shooting guards and centers.
Still, the prototype shooting guard right after Jordan was Mitch Richmond. He was strong and well-built but listed at 6’5 I think. Brad Beal compares favorably in size to Mitch Richmond. If not in height then in size and length.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 6:13pm #760378
kingofbumsParticipantif i was a coach i’d prefer a range of 6’5- 6’7. wouldnt want to have an undersized sg getting pounded on in the post (ive watched a lot of that this year being a raptors fan and just watching derozans improved game inside pounding his opponents)
0 - Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 6:18pm #760379
festar35ParticipantThe Pacers SG is actually now Stephenson and he is 6’5 also, PG is a SF
0- Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 7:32pm #760393
benny15Participantyeah… but i did say that if everyone was healthy, so to be consistent with that comment, i used indiana’s line-up last year of granger at the three and george became the starting 2. i completely agree that george is a natural three though.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 6:26pm #760382
rileymcshea3ParticipantAs I was looking at the list I started to notice that the people that are 6’5 and over are more 3 point shooters and true “shooting guards” while the guys 6’4 and under are more guys that can get to the basket and create, I think this might have to do with every other position in the NBA getting better at shooting Sfs can now really shoot 3s while there is more stretch 4s and big men with midrange shots so that needs to less need of shooting the sg and more penetrating to get the other shooters open
0- Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 7:34pm #760395
benny15Participantinteresting point. one could argue that dribble penetration is more exploited now with more front court players able to stretch defense away from clogging up the lane.
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- Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 7:07pm #760391
Chilbert arenasParticipantKobe is the tallest 6’6 I’ve ever seen, he’s closer to 6’7.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 04/04/2013 - 7:29pm #760396
Memphis MadnessParticipantA lot of the guys on this list are basically “perimeter” guys who can play two or even all three spots on the perimeter.
Not only James Harden, but D Wade, and Tyreke Evans. Westbrook can play the two. Jarrett Jack is a bench guy who can play either guard spot.
Tony Allen mostly plays the 2 spot on offense but guards all three perimeter spots on defense.LeBron is the best small forward ever who is now playing the stretch four spot as well as running the traditional point guard spot for much of the game. He’s also the guy who defends forwards but also the guy who defended Derrick Rose in the playoffs two years ago.
There’s more ‘positionless’ basketball today, so if you have talent you will play.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 04/05/2013 - 6:18am #760447
WolfRobParticipant“Positions” are starting to become disregarded in basketball to be honest.
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