[valentine]

If Team USA didnt get buzzed for so many travels, theyd probably win by another 10 pts each game.

On one hand, NBA travel rules makes it easier to beat defenders. Its great for making spectacular plays and really rewards athletic slashing types. It makes it easier for superstars to dominate which suits the NBA, as its a ‘Superstar League’

 

FIBA rules on the other hand makes teamwork and ball movement more valued. Its also why theres a more balanced scoring load on international teams and why the concept of ‘stretch 4s and 5s’ took off internationally before the NBA.

 

Ive personally only ever played with FIBA rules and always wished I could take that extra step. But ultimately I prefer it since I think Basketball is a team game and its more fun to play with and watch guys who pass.

 

 

[KingslayerParticipant]

I’m pretty naive about specific FIBA rules, could you explain the difference? Is it roughly the same rules called a lot more stringently, or are there specific differences like a lack of a gather step in FIBA?

I generally like the NBA travel rules with the gather step, and how the refs forgive slight slides when making a controlled "basketball play." That said, we all know there are some blatant violations that aren’t called, which can be pretty laughable.

 

[Hype Machine]

I’m not sure exactly either but it is definitely about the gather, like you said. 

Also, FIBA rules are strict regarding shuffling of pivot feet, where NBA doesnt really care if its not part of a move. Thats why you see 10+ step travels on Shaqtin a Fool.

In simple terms though, its 3 steps vs 2 after discontinuation of the dribble. It also takes away moves like the ‘pro step’ or ‘hop step’, depending on your lingo. 

Also the Euro Step is ironically named, since its very hard to do under FIBA rules. Im surprised the NBA version isnt used more often since it can be set up after the ball handler has stopped dribbling (as opposed to during the dribbling sequence)

 

 

 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

Not exactly sure what you mean by fiba rules. I’ve only played regular basketball with regular basketball rules…where it was created…in the good ole US of A. #RockFlag&Eagle 

[Hype Machine]

In Oz, at all levels, from rec league to Pro, they follow FIBA rules whenever they are changed. 

I remember when they pushed the 3pt line back a few years ago and my 3pt shooting went from 16% to 12% for the season. 

 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 I did notice Demarcus cousins getting called for multiple travels vs Venezuela tn…hmmmm

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 Ya’ll a bunch of haters. Jelly ass poods

[McDunkin]

….Now i see why you are the way you are

[GronounoursParticipant]

 In the original game ‘in the good ole US’, you weren’t even allowed to dribble; just pass and shoot. So what is ‘regular’ basketball?

I think US travelling rules should be stricter; it’s really too easy for the offensive player, especially when the ref doesn’t mind if you take 12 steps before dunking. Some moves are laughable.

[holefillers1Participant]

 Wasn’t James a Canadian?

[OhCanada-Participant]

 James Naismith. Born in Canada went to Kansas invented game in Springfield. Its an American game invented by a Canadian.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 James Naismith. Born in Canada went to Kansas invented game in Springfield. Its an American game invented by a Canadian.

[Robb_CParticipant]

 They don’t call it the Euro step for no reason 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 I guess I’d prefer the FIBA rules myself. But maybe I’m just a crusty get off my lawn guy. 

If NBA superstars are as good as the league wants them to be, they should be fine dominating on a level playing field where there is as little preferential treatment as possible. 

There will always be favoritism and stars will always get more benefit of the doubt, but I mean these guys did get to the league playing basketball without traveling. No reason why they can’t keep doing that in the NBA without traveling too. 

 

 

 

[ChrispyParticipant]

 Ok, so I grew up playing in the US. I have now spent the last several years living in Central America, which uses FIBA rules. That said, I have never had a problem here with travels on the gather, but rather with getting called after ctaching a pass, taking my 2 steps and going up to the basket. For some reason, and I have never gotten a real explaination from the officials here (and it IS official by official-some are great and others…), they love calling me for a travel like this when I am catching a pass on the break. I had a 40 point game the other day, but would have had about 50 if the were more consitent on this.That said, I like calling a guy for getting a running start on the gather and or pump fake.

[ThepessimestParticipant]

 The rules of the United States and FIBA are the same…..it’s just one organization applies the rules differently or interprets them differently.

In the NBA I notice guys from a pivot position changing their pivot foot. Sometimes not once but twice while having possession of the ball. The NBA officials are "supposed" to call the violation but have chosen to ignore this if it does not give the offensive player an advantage. In FIBA if you do that you will be called for a travel. Are the rules different or is the focus of each league different?

I think it’s the focus. NBA wants to entertain the fan. FIBA adheres to it’s rules and hopes that the players adjust and play a fundamentally sound basketball game.

Sadly as a high school coach I notice players are also able to change pivot feet and travel "as long as" an advantage is not perceived to be gained. But that’s subjective which to me is not the way to call the game.

Just my take.

Note; I know there are certain rules, measurements, etc. that are different from NBA to FIBA. My comments were in reference to violations that are called.

 

 

 

 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Good post.  This is the only reply that needs to be read in this thread.  The difference b/t travelling in the NBA and FIBA is moreso in the enforcement, not the rules.

Just look at the 2 instances in which NBA players are called more for travelling in FIBA ball: catching the ball on the move and the first step off of a catch.  There are no NBA rules that allow NBA players to take 3 steps on a catch before releasing the ball or lift their pivot foot before putting the ball down from a static position.  If NBA refs called those by the book, there would be way more travels called and maybe then NBA players would be forced to improve their footwork.

 

[RicoParticipant]

 I dislike the bunny hop, so I’m going to go with FIBA on this.

[holefillers1Participant]

 I remember AI’s second year, the refs tried to call more carries.  It didn’t last long and ball handling and traveling rules have been loosely officiated since then…Lebron’s crab dribble…

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Correct me if Im wrong but when talking about travelling isn’t it the same rules just FIBA actually calls the travels. I remember when I started playing public school basketball I would get called on all kinds of illegal pivots, lifting my pivot foot, sliding my pivot foot, jab steps, gathers and other things that I watched Carter Kobe and T-Mac get away with everynight. That’s when I realized what superstar treatment was and that I wasn’t necessarily a superstar so I had to tone it down.

[shug94Participant]

It’s a combination of two factors. The rules are slightly different, and they are called differently.

In the NBA, you can make a running cut without the ball, catch the pass then take two steps and lay it in. You always have two steps to use regardless of whether you have dribbled or not.

In FIBA, you can make a running cut without the ball, catch the pass then take one step and lay it in. You get one step if you haven’t dribbled, and two steps if you have.

Additionally NBA players get away with routine 3 step travels, and occasional 4 or above. It is probably the thing that makes me yell at my TV the most.

I don’t get mad at LeBron for taking three steps on almost every lay-up or dunk, he is just taking what the umpires give him. Don’t hate the players, hate the (referees of the) game.

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