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  • #44940
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    PrecociousNeophyte
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    I am doing a paper on this topic for school and I was wondering what your guys opinion on when a player should be eligible to enter the NBA Draft? Weather it be out of HS, after one year of college, or maybe you think they should stay all four years. What ever you choose please also explain a little bit about why you chose what you did.

    I personally think that players should be able to come out of HS, because it is their choice on what to do with the rest of their lives. No one should make them go to college just because of a rule, when some of them don’t want to even be there in the first place. He could be taking a scholarship from someone that actually needs it whether it be someone on the team or someone just going to that school that deserves it. Also, could you imagine if they made Lebron go to college? Yea, it would make college basketball more exciting, but it would just be wasting his time and god for bid if he got hurt in a college game and ruined what a great NBA career he has had up to this point. I could write more on my opinion, but I would like to keep it somewhat short, so thank you to everyone that shares their opinion.

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  • #731581
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    Toronto16
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    If the NBA had a better minor league system, I’d say draft them out of high school. You shouldn’t force these guys to go to college or go oversees. You draft them out of high school, give them a portion of the NBA rookie scale salary, and you keep them in the minors for 2 or 3 years. If they slack off, they don’t get paid, if they do well you call them up early.

    The NBA game is too watered down when you allow preps to pros without seasoning.

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  • #731585
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    aamir543
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    I know you want to write about what you believe in and I’m not telling you that your view point is wrong, but whenever it comes to writing an essay you should always choose the side with the most supporting details and examples. If I were you, I’d list the arguments and examples you’d use for each argument, and then look and see which side has a stronger argument.

    If you’re doing a paper for school, talk about how guys nowadays rely on athleticism more and their games aren’t as refined as guys who spent more time in college like Tim Duncan. Give a couple examples about that, also talk about immaturity issues with Sebastian Telfair and guys like that.

    And since we’re talking about essays, can someone please give me some advice on my 12th night essay. I’m comparing and contrasting Olivia and Orsino to Viola.

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  • #731596
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    raybeas
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    out of HS two years, or at least 20 yrs old before they can declare for the NBA draft. I think the DLeague should be expanded to about twenty teams (didn’t know they had 16 already), and players can go there straight out of HS and earn $30-50k per year untill they are draft eligible/worthy. Or go overseas if they can earn more $. Players that want a free education can still go to college for two or more years. Foriegn players can still play overseas, or DLeague it to get NBA style coaching.
    This will mainly benefit the NBA teams because they wont be paying to teach young athletes how to play basketball, and the competition level will be easier to evaluate. You won’t have the young bust factor quite as often. Imagine if your team had drafted Jereme Richmond straight out of HS.
    There will be 3-5 players every 5 or 10 years who will be “hurt” by this system by not being allowed to play despite being physically and mentally ready to play straight out of HS. They will be great no matter what system is in place, though.

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  • #731597
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    Nbanflguy
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    If you are good enough you should be able to enter the draft anytime you want.

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    • #731776
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      LerinErin
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      If a player is good enough at x age… They should be able to play at that age. The talent level should be all that matters not a specific birth date.

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  • #731600
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    Mad Max
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    I say it should be like NFL, and be 3 years. Seriously at worst these guys get to go to some of the best colleges in the country, get an education (if they want), play basketball at a high level, get coached by some of the best coaches, room and board, food, equipment and clothes all for free for pretty much. Also college is a great expierence and you only get to expierence it once. I’m not forcing guys to go to college, they can still play pro ball and get paid overseas if they want. It would make both college and the NBA a lot better if players had to wait three years. Too many guys come out early and don’t play at all because they simply are not ready/ good enough and if they do play, most of them struggle. Look at the best rookie this year, Damian Lillard, was at Weber St for 4 years (redshirted a yr due to injury). He has so much poise and far more polished with his fundementals, and is just further mentaly on how to play the game due to more expierence.

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  • #731601
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    phila9012
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    The NBDL is starting to play a bigger role in developing players, once players start getting sent down for 3 to 4 months at a time and being able to develop skills and play more in games it will be perfect for them. If gerald green could have had 2 years to develop in the NBDL, where coaches goals are to develop players and get them for the NBA it would have been great for him. I think allowing players to go from high school to the NBA will work better now that guys are able to develop in the NBDL.

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  • #731623
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    the I in win
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    I think out of high school should be the rule, if a gm feels strongly enough about a certain player or feels that they can draft a prospect before he turns great then I feel they should be aloud to take a shot on them. This caused many scouts, gms, coaches, etc to get fired but if your willing to take the risk…

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  • #731633
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    BasketballJunkie224
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    it should be 3 years or just let them go str8 from high school…a freshman college basketball player who plans to stay 1 or 2 years is NOT a student athlete..it is simply a detour to the nba…either make them go to school or let them go to the nba..simple as that

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  • #731639
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    Bird_Years
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    One thing I would like to see changed (although it will likely never happen) is some sort of pay scale in college. College players make their schools a ton of money, it seems a little ridiculous that they only get free tuition. I don’t know a lot about the NCAA and the practicality of this, so anyone who does: Do you think a system where each school is given a set amount of paid positions (similar to the current scholarship system) where players could make anywhere from $30K to 100K per year could potentially be feasible?

    I know the NCAA claims they want to preserve “Amateur” Sports, but when some coaches are getting paid millions (and then allegedly handing some down to players to get them into their programs) it seems to me that paying the players some part of the NCAA’s profits could reduce conflicts of interest and hopefully improve college basketball.

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    • #731786
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      phila9012
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      I am going to college right now, all paying players will do is raise my tuition, that would be stupid. Most basketball and football teams lose money for their schools, paying players would be dumb when they already get a $20,000 to $40,000 scholership to play. The Amatur thing that is in america is dumb, in europe for every sport teams are all professional and that works out good, players get paid from the time they are 11 or 12 a couple hundred dollars per year to when they are 16 where they make 20,000 to 60,000 depending on how good they are and when they are 18 they make what ever any other pro would make.

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  • #731641
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    Hitster
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    My personal opinion is that at 18 years old a guy, can vote, fight for his country so he should be able to play professional sport. It is up to teams to draft the players correctly, they have all the resources to analyse the players.

    A few ideas that could be used in your paper might include a look at what are a players peak playing years, guys who get drafted early have more miles on the clock than guys who spend more time in college.

    The NCAA offers athletic scholarships based on a player’s sporting ability, they become a true sporting athlete.

    Teams can draft a player at 18 but maybe he cannot play in the NBA for a year, so they effectively become a red-shirt freshman and their rookie contract becomes 5 years, only for guys who go straight from HS to the draft, all other rookie deals remain 5 years. The extra years salary is say 25% from the usual first year on the rookie scale, next year they get the remaining 75%. First rounders would be 3 guaranteed years if they were drafted at 18 with options for years 4 and 5 ( usually years 3 and 4 on normal rookie deals). This gives guys who may need to declare for financial reasons the chance to do so but they get 16 months to mature with the team before they can play. They can practice, travel with the team, play D-League but get a year’s NBA education effectively.

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  • #731644
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    BasketballJunkie224
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    @ bird years..i see what your saying but you have to remember, they are students @ the college or at least thats what they are portrayed to be….if they started paying athletes @ college plus give them a free ride then how do u think the parents of other students would react to that? it would never work out and it would all blow up

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  • #731645
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    Grandmama
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    Definitely after high school. I hate the one year removed from high school rule. It makes college bball more interesting, but if players are good enough to enter high school they definitely should have that option.

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  • #731646
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    BasketballJunkie224
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    this is what it is in a nutshell….college basketball players are on campus to play ball and have sex with girls…that is what the nba is anyway so why even make them go to college? lol

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  • #731649
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    lalaila
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    i don’t have a clear opinion on that but just imagine ‘three&be free’ lol

    college ball would be SICK, imagine UK this year with AD,MKG even better, Andre’s improvements in uconn, Kyrie still in Duke and so on

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  • #731655
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    Choppy
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    As a teacher, I find it a no-brainer for me as to which way this should go. I believe in education and also believe that players should have something to fall back on in case something goes wrong. Not every talented player makes it in this league.

    For example, say a player declared himself for the draft and gets injured seriously (or gets red flagged a la Sullinger) he could not get drafted or be out of the league in a year. What is he going to do then? If he had some form of education under his belt, he’d at least have a chance to make a decent living outside of basketball. Coming straight out of high school sounds nice in theory (and in practice for the Le Brons, Kobes and Garnetts of the world) but is fraught with danger.

    Ideally, I’d like to see everyone finish college before coming to the NBA. Seeing as that’s never going to happen, probably two years of college before drafting would be a nice compromise. Gives the kids a year or two of maturing and new experiences before hitting the big stage.

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