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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 2:24am #8891

BadBoys
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I am looking at active players whose majority of their careers are behind him. Not looking a players like Derrick Rose and projecting them for Hall of Fame. Please chime in.
WILL BE IN HALL OF FAME
Kevin Garnett
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Lebron James
Shaq O’Neal
Jason Kidd
Dirk Nowitski
Allen Iverson
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Steve Nash
ON THE FENCE
Ben Wallace
Tracey McGrady
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobolli
Chauncey Billups
Not long enough careers yet:
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Dwayne Wade
Dwight Howard
Pau Gasol
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 2:41am #215496

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dwayne wade and pau gasol have been in the league as long or longer than lebron, so how haven’t they had long enough careers yet? But I agree with the rest. Most people will say no to steve nash and that he didnt deserve 2 mvps but the fact is nobody can take those mvps away and you cant leave put a guy that won twice. Manu Giniobil has been injured too often s I think that could hurt his chances.
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 3:38am #215501
  
  BadBoys
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  I agree with Dwayne Wade. But I dont see Pau getting in at this point. Another title and yes. Career averages of 19ppg and 9 rpg with some terrible losing seasons in Memphis.
  You are right cant keep Nash out with two MVPs.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 3:37am #215500

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ben wallace is a hall of famer hes in not even on the fense hes in there whos not gonna vote for him 2 get in
hes a winner a 3 time champion 4 dpoy award
hes in im sorry but he is the best defesive big man to play i dont care who anyone bring up hes the best
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 4:20am #215514
  
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  Ben Wallace only won one title. I would like to see him in as I am a Detroit Pistons fan and I agree he was the best defensive player of his era. I dont think it is a sure thing though.
  If you look at his career stats. In his 13 year NBA career he really only had 5 great seasons. Stats started to fall off 2005-2006. He was not a HOF player in his 4 years with Washington/Orlando or his last 4 years with Chicago/Clev.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 3:42am #215502

the_shamwow_guy
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Good list if i may add some on the fence players
Vince Carter
Gilbert Areanas
Grant Hill
and players to early to say yes to
Carmello anthont
Chris Bosh
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 3:53am #215507

Henry25
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Since when did Ben Wallace get 3 championships??????? I agree he should be in the hof, but he only has one championship. I think if Pau Gasol continues to win with Kobe and the Lakers then he will definetley be in the HOF. And he didnt have bad years in Memphis. When he was there they actually made the playoffs a few season and had a couple of 50 win seasons
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 4:11am #215510
  
  trojans13
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  i’m sure that i’ll get slammed for this but i will say it anyhow, is it really a given that paul pierce is a no doubt hall of famer? how many times has he made all NBA first team, 1 or 2 times. I think the success he’s had the last two seasons have really inflated people’s opinions of him. I mean it took a guy like Alex English a long time to finally get recognized as a Hall of Famer and his numbers far exceed Pierce’s. Dont get me wrong he has had a fantastic career and he’s a tremendous player but I just dont view him as a lock for the hall of fame right now. thoughts?
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 4:18am #215513

McWinning
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i don’t think Ginoble hes a scorer but hes never scored an extreme amount and hes weak defensively. he has the rings but that’s all.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 4:24am #215516

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Just stating his case
Paul Pierce is an 8x all star and 3x All NBA third team and 1x NBA second team.
He won the Finals NBA MVP which I think is huge for someones case to make HOF. He came up big on the games biggest stage.
Career stats of 23ppg 6 rpg 4apg.
Had five seasons where he averaged over 25ppg.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 4:28am #215518

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The reason I put him on is his contribution to the three titles he has won with the Spurs.
The Celtics won three titles and their top three players made the HOF:
Bird, Parish, McHale
Lakers won 5 titles and their top three players made the hall:
Kareem, Magic, Worthy
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 5:09am #215524
  
  trojans13
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  Completely agree with you that he has had an oustanding career, but most of his huge individual number came during a time when the celtics were mediorce at best. When Pierce was carrying the celtics on his back alone, the celtics were a borderline playoff team at best. It took the addition of other superstars to bring his game to another level. Granted Pierce stepped his game up to and became a better player as well. I guess my point is i’m not saying that Pierce isnt a potential hall of famer, i just think its a little ridiculous that he’s a sure-fire first ballot hall of famer like some suggest.
  I think its gotten to the point where we think every good/great player should be a Hall of Famer, where I think it should be reserved for the truly elite
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 4:32am #215520

McWinning
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all those players are much better than Ginoble the Spurs just had a good surrounding core.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 5:40am #215528

cprizz15
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he is great in the playoffs winning a number of rings
what about him? better or worse chance to end up in the hall?
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 6:05am #215533
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  I think Wade has done at least as much as LBJ in their equally short careers, if Lebron is a lock then so is Wade.
  Yao Ming is on the fence as well. 7 time all star and one of the best face up shooting centers of all time.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 9:51am #215584
    
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    You have to remember Ming makes the All-Star game every year because of all the Chinese fans that vote him as a starter.
    He has been a great ambassador for the NBA in China but his accomplishments do not warrant selection. Has only averaged a double double twice in his career. Has never played in the Western Conference Finals.
    Unless he comes back and Houston has some success he is not even close to HOF.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 9:53am #215586

QHaynes20
I have to ask: If Lebron James got hurt and broke his leg tonight…is he a hall of famer?
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 9:56am #215589

llperez
I don’t think Ben Wallace gets in. Like bad boys pointed out, he was a mediocre player his first 4 years and has been mediocre once again his liast 3 years. He had a great run with the pistons for about 5 seasons, but even then he was more of a role player then a takeover type.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 9:58am #215590

llperez
If Lebron neer played another game, then yeah I would put him in. In 6 season’s he has played unbelievable and made an impact on the game. HIs greatness is undeniable, and people will recognize it even if something happened today that ended his career.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:02am #215591

QHaynes20
I dunno. To me, It’s the Hall of Fame. I don’t want a What-If guy in there.
Projecting down the line- Yes, LBJ will be in the NBA HOF but right now? I dont think so
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:10am #215596
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  Just curious…do you think Bill Walton should be in the hall? I definitly don’t think he should have been on the 50 greatest players list.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:03am #215592

youngcarter
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dont forget paul pierce took the celtics to the eastern conferance finals 2 years in a row. if antoine walker could guard kenyon martain they wouldve went to the finals one of those years
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:12am #215597

QHaynes20
To be honest…NO
He had a 3 good seasons. He got into the HOF because of his injury plaged career and then his UCLA career.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:14am #215598

youngcarter
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he was a 6th man of the year in boston if im not mistaken. that may have just been of reputation tho
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:18am #215599

Lemons4Life
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Wade’s had a better career so far, he’s an auto-hof unless you’re crazy!
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:21am #215600

llperez
I don’t know if Bill Walton deserved to get in, I would have to check his stats, but it is the basketball hall of fame and not just NBA so his accomplishements at UCLA weigh heavily in his favor. He also was the best player and Finals mvp on a title team.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:24am #215606

llperez
looking at Bad Boy’s on the fence list:
Ben Wallace and Manu Ginobli would be out in my mind. They just haven’t had the type of careers that really seperates them from the rest the league.
Billups, McGrady and Parker are tough calls. We truly have to wait and see what they do from here on out.
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:30am #215618
  
  trojans13
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  I know he acted like a goofball, but the doors to the Hall of Fame should be shut down if Ben Wallace enters the Hall of Fame before Dennis Rodman. FACT
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:31am #215621

QHaynes20
1000% agree
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Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:32am #215623

llperez
agreed Trojans. I’m not sure if Rodman deserves to get in, but he is definitely in before Big Ben.
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- Posted on: Thu, 09/24/2009 - 11:47am #215714
  
  BadBoys
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  Rodman for sure deserves to get in.
  Five time NBA Champion. 2 time defensive player of the year.
  Averaged over 15 rebounds 6 years in a row and over 18 rebounds twice.
  Unlike Ben Wallace Rodman is a great one on one defender as well. Wallace was great at help side but not so great in shutting his man down.
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