He wont/can't respond, everyone on here knows the stories he's told in the past never has added up this is just icing on the cake.
And to the posters who don't know why I did this, IndianaBasketball called me out on the JUCO I played for and my stats and said I was sorry so I dug in his info and found out he's never played.
Im not trying to take away from his credibility as a poster just as an ATHLETE lol
Your right Boywonder, you should never pretend to be someone your not. Gotta go, though, got a conference with Muhammed Ali and Subhas.
I did come back to the thread to see if he'd respond. Lol
eleventy bajillion dollars IB will not respond to wonderbread. Or any of wonderbreads aliases.
IndianaBasketball is a grown man this is the third time you've taken up for him get off his nutzzz faaggggmister. Let him respond if he doesn't we all know it's true he never played and he was frauding the whole time, don't need you to be the third party.
He will have to because im not lettting this fall off the 1st page.
Its sunday, April Fools, and I have nothing at all better to do.
So let me get this straight...
It's impossible that I was recruited by one coach and played for another after that coach left for another job?
And if anybody goes back and can find the post from like two years ago, I never once wrote I tip dunked on O'Bryant during a game while at Indiana State. Have you never played in pro-am leagues, summer leagues, etc?
And you can also read posts if you can find them, that I never once wrote I was a great player. I wrote I wasn't a great player and had knee injuries that basically destroyed my career before it got a chance to start. I got my grades, graduated and got a job. And now, I help with training, which is another way I know a lot of players in the Indianapolis area like Teague, etc.
This is the internet. Look at how you're stalking me now... Like I'm going to release my full name to clowns like you. 95% of the people on here haven't given their real names and that's their right.
And read through previous posts... I've written about every player that I know from my area. We all grew up in the same area. Players that are older than me and younger... It's a tight nit area. The older ones looked out after the younger ones (like Jason Gardner, Chris Thomas, etc did with me) and the younger ones looked up to the old ones.
The fact that you've started this thread is nothing short of comical to me... And most of all disrespectful. You're applauding yourself for being stalkerish... I only know females that act like that.
That was an Intelligent Obamalike response..Now Waiting Patiently for wonderboy to respond
&$#%#&@!'s gettin weird around here..
You've never played period.
And you played against Patrick O'Bryant? When? Summerleagues? Pro-AM leagues?
Would be true, but for one Patrick O'Bryant isn't from Indiana so I doubt he'd be up there hooping just because,for two Bradley is in Illinois so he probably spent most of his college summer days up there.
So i'm curious to know where you played against him at.
And if you played at ISU why isn't there a Vincennes CC transfer listed on the roster for any of the years you were at the school? They put everyone else's previous school up there, but just happened to miss you right? What a kawinky&$#%#&@! lol
All eyes ar on this beef.
Your reply just now seemed to lack the authority of your previous ones... I mean, did you think I wasn't going to reply to this?
And let's make this clear... You think players only go to camps, play summer ball, attend Pro-Ams in their homestate? I literally posted a roster FULL of out of state players that played in IUPUI just THIS past summer... Mario Chalmers isn't from here... Burks from Utah isn't from here. Jeff Green isn't from here. What about DeMarcus Cousins or John Wall. I can go down the list of the players that have showed up to Indiana over the years to play Pro-Am ball. That list includes college, pro and overseas. And players don't restrict their training, camps, etc to one place... They TRAVEL everywhere, especially if it's only two-three hours away. IF you were a ball player, you'd know that. You're clearly not too smart.
Like I said... I've never once said I was a great ball player. I don't have to release my information to a stalkerish ass girl like you. What's next? You hacking my e-mails and trying to determine where I work... Or live? Sad...
I have absolutely no shame in my hoops past. I'm not somebody stuck on past hoop dreams. I got my education, graduated, got a job and make great money... I took my hoops connections, made friends, made money, etc.
The fact you've taken the time to do all of this just seems scary... The fact anybody on here is applauding you is incredible.
I keep waiting for IndianaBasketball to reveal that this has all been an elaborate ruse, and he created the boywonder account two years ago to blow our minds on April Fools Day 2012.
Lol yea man you can keep coming up with these funny,political responses trying to get posters on your side.
But one question you can't answer is this:
WHY ISN"T THERE A VINCENNES CC/NORTH TRANSFER ATHLETE LISTED ON THE ISU WEBSITE?????
The only ones listed were Adam Lottino who did go to North,but as I stated before he never went to Vinceness CC, he went D2 and then listed in the NAVY before being asked to walk-on at ISU...story below:
And the guy who is listed for Vincennes CC was from Mansfield,OH and he was a senior in 09-10.
I don't even really care about your infamous dunk on O'Bryant anymore were talking about you as a basketball player my dude.
So when did you play? What years?
Unfortunately, it's not lol.
I'm through with it though. This guy clearly has stalkerish issues... I'm afraid he may be able to get my IP address or something. What's next? Scratched cars and flat tires?
Talking about I need to come clean... YOU need to come out of the closet and admit you got a crush on me... Nothing against gay people, but I'll have to pass on ya... You'll have to find somebody else to do the sticking to ya.
Does it really matter if he lied about playing against Patrick O'Bryant? Will it fulfill some empty space in your life if you can either prove he did not play college ball or out his real name when he obviously does not feel comfortable giving it out? He is one of the best posters on the site and is probably tired of being harrassed by someone who seems strangly addicted to his past. If he says he played then that is his right, even if he is just pulling it all out of his @ss it does not matter. Not everything everyone says on the internet has to be true, that is part of the allure. Let me put it this way, as sure as I can say that I am not Steve Nash I seriously doubt that your a "boy wonder".
Exactly clase closed.
You've never played
And funny how you want to turn this on me when your the one who bashed me FIRST about my basketball playing career.
Did you forget about this thread were you bashed me FIRST?:
Now you wanna play victim cause you got caught being a FRAUD, because you've never hooped anywhere but the backyards of French Lick,IN, and you want to call me stalkerish and this and that, nah son these negs or positives don't mean shhhhiiiittt to me they have no affect on my life, I really play college ball just finished my JR year and will be a senior next year.
But you will be scarred for life because your living a lie, you WANTING to really be a hooper is real life ish, pink thumb and green thumb isn't real life.
Applaud yourself you've failed at trying to be somebody you aren't.
People these days I tell ya.
Future_Scout were you drunk posting again..?
Get a hobby, boywonder. And not one that involves being so emotionally invested to people online.
Also, this isn't a "GOTCHA!" moment, even if you happen to be right. All it amounts to is a waste of your afternoon.
Totally your right to not say your name or anything like that. I understand that the internet is a f#cked up place at times. However, you dissing on homeboy's JUCO kind of drove him to do what he did. I do not think boywonder is in the right, I think this is really immature and uncalled for. But, when you made fun of where he played, it kind of seemed like you were putting your experience and ability over his. You used that as ammo, is it uncalled for that he looked for some of his own?
In the Patrick O'Bryant post of question, you said that it was your biggest highlight of your career at ISU:
Now, that dunk definitely could have happened while you were playing at ISU, but you mention nothing about it being in a Pro-am game. You say, "It was a big deal in the MVC", which is pretty much interpreted as happening during conference play. When you think "ISU career", you think you playing in a Sycamore uniform.
I understand that you do not want people interfering in your personal life, but I think you understand why people are interested. It is much more about curiosity of your basketball experience, regardless of how good you were, compared to trying to "stalk you". Having my full name out there may be a bad idea, but luckily not too much stalking right now.
I shot around with Aaron Brooks once at U of O. My best story is I passed it to him, he missed and said "bad pass". I rebounded it, fired a hard chest pass and he drained it. I never had the level of conditioning to be close to a D1 athlete, so I respect anyone who got close to that level. I get you not releasing your name on the internet, but I get people being interested in your experience. We consider you a good poster regardless, but when you dissed on a guys playing experience, did you not think he would want to know what made yours better?
Does IndianaBasketball have a hold on some of you posters? Like what's your reason for taking up for a GROWN ASS MAN who STARTED the whole argument of who plays where who sucks, and now i'm FINISHING it and i'm in the wrong?
Lol I applaud all of you that IndianaBasketball has a hold on, i'm done.
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rests my case even more thanks bro.
MikeyV coming in calms everybody down, lol
The only reason he was compelled to tell you your juco sucks is because you commented multiple times on how stupid you thought his thread was. If i started a thread and someone posted more than once something insulting towards my choice of topics i might feel compelled to insult them as well. Where the hell did you get that he started this argument?
Man, I do not think you are necessarily in the right. I for one am cool with you having played JUCO anywhere, but you were antagonistic and have dealt with this pretty awfully. You could have been the bigger person and not made 1,000 posts about this stuff. You were trolling and while it was mildly amusing at first, it went to far and it gives you little respect as a poster.
The reason people are sticking up for Indiana is that he has been an awesome poster. I cannot say I was not also interested to know more details about his college career, as I would any poster who claimed to have one, but I could care less how he played during that time. I did not agree with him calling out your JUCO, but I think you could have handled things much better. All in all, if you do not start talking about basketball in general, think people will probably stop caring about much of what you have to say. Not a hater, just calling it how I see it.
And to back up what mikeyv is saying even more, it went from me trying to piece together his "career" to see what type of numbers he put up in college because he was bashing on my numbers and school, to finding out he's never played anywhere call it stalkerish if you want, but it is what it is.
Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk homeboy.
What's the deal with y'all?
You pull up the thread and the exact quote, and then misquote it. I never said "IT" was a big deal in the MVC... I wrote Patrick O'Bryant himself was a big deal in the MVC. I said "HE" was a big deal in the MVC. I mean, I don't think you purposely ignored that, but damn... I never wrote that was in a game.
And in that same thread, I never wrote I was a big deal. I've mentioned plenty of times on NBADRAFT.net that I had bad knees. I've written plenty of times, I got my education, grades and got a job.
And look at the beginning of that Eric Gordon Adidas thread and see who started anything... He came at me first. As long as I've been a member on this site, I've never gone and attacked anybody else first with a disrespectful attitude. He came at me first and I called the JUCO he played at garbage.
I don't see how I've said anything contradictful. I think it's disrespectful and F'd up that everybody is trying to team up on me because I don't want to release my identity on the internet. Lol that's nuts.
I don't care about those pink thumbs green thumbs bro, long as I get on here and post and state my argument on certain threads thats all that matters someone will still agree, and someone will still disagree whether it shows up +/- someone will agree or disagree.People put wayyyy to much thought in those thumbs, Aran gets negged all the time you think it has any affect on him or his credibility? NO, so I could care less, im going to say what I feel regardless.
But the fact that people are saying I need to cool it or i'm taking it too far c'mon now really? He got personal with me FIRST and where i'm from when you do that it's not all peaches and cream bra, but when I get personal on him its a problem lol I could have walked away but he got personal so I dug up some info on him that turned out to be no info at all and hey it is what it is, everyone knows now tho this dude can't hoop a lick.
"IndianaBasketball" was clearly exposed here. He didn't answer any of the OP's questions, just avoided them and called him a "stalker" while trying to sound politcally correct. I've yet to see IndianaBasketball explain any of this. It's not like he doesn't care what some guy on the internet thinks because he's already made like 4 long multiple paragraphs posts insulting this guy.
Pretty funny stuff. I never understood why someone would lie on the internet to make themselves cool. These are people who will you never see and have no impact on your life whatsoever.
You have the right to defend yourself against attacks, but you are taking it way to far. Anger managment is a good tool to learn in life.
I never had a problem with IndianaBasketball as long as he is being honest, I actually like him. But if my friend, coworker, teacher, boss, ect was lying about everything. Wouldn't you have a problem ? I can't just disregard it if is BS because he is a good poster.
This is some intense &$#%#&@!. Boywonder has literally put together a case against IndianaBall.
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I think this is enough. Both guys are at fault, so why not just drop it? Boywonder shouldn't have been calling out Indiana and saying his thread was stupid, and Indiana shouldn't have dissed him saying his JUCO sucked (hell I never even played in HS). Whether Indiana played at ISU or not doesn't really matter. The only way you can call someone out for that is if you have never lied yourself and since everyone has lied, no one call insult him for something he may or may not have lied about. He's one of the top minds on this site, and if boywonder posts half as well as he investigates cases he'll be a great up and coming poster himself. Let's just leave it at that.
This has to go Down in the NBADRAFT.NET's Hall of Fame Archive as 1 of the Most Intriguing!!!!!
This has the makings of a great rivalry. For all the people saying we should just forget about it and let it die, where is the fun in that? Lets let it play out
I still don't see how I was exposed... Another thing is he keeps saying I went to Indiana North High School. I've written a couple of times that I went to North Central High School.
I've said a few times I wasn't a great player and that my career was pretty much over before it started... I've talked about my knee issues on here openly. Whenever there's a knee injury in the NBA, I'm the first person to comment on it just because I've been through it and have taken interest in it. I've never bragged or boasted because nothing I did playing wise was major due to injuries and poor grades to start.
I've said a few times that I turned my grades around, got my education, got a job, etc so I don't really see what's political or controversial.
And as far as players, I've brought up my associations with them whether it be through training, camps, etc.
This is pure comedy to me that he tried to assassinate my NBADRAFT.net character lol.
The, "it" mistake was not meant to say that people around the conference were talking about it. It was just saying that when he asked you the question, it seemed like your response might be something about playing for Indiana State rather than while you were at Indiana State. I never said you wrote you were a big deal. I think I pretty much clearly stated, if you were or not was not important. We just maybe wanted to know your role or stats, not to use them against you but out of curiosity.
I for one am not attacking you nor have I been. You took it that way, which is pretty much what seems to happen whenever someone disagrees with the way you go about something. I know you got hurt and I am glad you got an education. I am sure whether you think so or not, you were indeed a good basketball player to have had your education paid for. If you do not want to release your name, that is fine. But, all I was saying was that when you made the statement that another person played at a bad JUCO, you were setting your self up for inquisition.
To say you have never come at anyone hard or been the first to strike, well, I do not think that is entirely true. You did not in this case, he did come at you, but I think you made it a contest of egos once you shrugged off where he played. You can think that people are against you, but I think that you are taking this the wrong way. If you do not want to give your identity, that is fine, but if someone had said the same thing about you that you said to boywonder, would you not want to know about them? Maybe that is not how you operate, but I definitely know you used what someone found about boywonder against him.
Not caring about points is the right way to go about it. The thing is, you did this all by trolling rather than anything actually basketball related. As entertaining as this has been (it kind of has), this is a basketball forum. We talk about basketball. I tend to judge people here on there opinions and knowledge about the game.
There have been a lot of people who claim to have been great basketball players on here who are awful posters. I think while he said a few small things to make you tick, you did the same thing by offering up a comment that was not even close to constructive. I am glad you are done and I hope you talk about basketball from now on, because this whole thing went way too far and on for much too long. I place a lot of that on you for these ridiculous counter attack posts.
I hold no hard feelings and I would like to be cool with you. My ultimate hope is that you become a constructive poster. Still, I think there are two sides to every story and that neither you nor Indiana sees each others in the least. If you look at how this whole thing turned into an avalanche, you threw the first snowball that rolled down the hill (sh!t analogy, but I think you get my drift).
Not a single F_ck was given on this subject. We just had 2 incredible games last night in the final 4 and are heading into the championship game, and this tool has to turn this into judge joe browns court room. You love the game so damn much leave your 15 year old school girl drama at the door and talk basketball.
Indianbasketball come clean or show us who you were. BoyWonder and Fdapo are 100% right. All you do is try to say how he stocks you. He has a crush on you? Are you f ucking kidding me? Obviously he doesn't and you are desperately trying to pull in any excuse you can find, reguardless of how ridiculous it may be. I think we both know he doesn't have a crush on you, he got pissed at you because you were being a cock d ick, and now he exposed you and all you got to say for yourself is that he had a crush on you? You better prove that you played at ISU or you are forver going to be known as the person who created a whole Indiana Basketball Story.
Who cares if Boy Wonder is taking this a little too far? Is that even considered weird at all in comparison to making up an alias and faking your life for years on an NBAdraft forum? I think the question is rhetorical.
"I think we both know he doesn't have a crush on you, he got pissed at you because you were being a cock d ick, and now he exposed you and all you got to say for yourself is that he had a crush on you?"
Incredible usage of the male reproductive organ as an insult in back-to-back words. I think that is an internet first for me and I look forward to using it in the future.
"Incredible usage of the male reproductive organ as an insult in back-to-back words. I think that is an internet first for me and I look forward to using it in the future."
Bringing that up makes you look like a cock-dick-wiener-penis.
I meant cocky,
To bad we dont have scooby doo and the gang on the forum. They could wrap this case up in 30 minutes. They would walk around getting clues, splitting up once or twice. Then Fred would set a trap using Shaggy and Scooby as live bait (They only do this because they get scooby snacks). Seriously who risks their life for food? Well Shaggy and Scooby do thats who. Anyway Shaggy and Scooby would f*ck up the trap, but accidently catch indiana basketball. Then they would take off his mask and see who he really is. Everyone would be surprised at the culprit except for Velma. That nerd knew who indiana basketball was the whole time. Indiana basketball would get mad and say "And I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you meddling kids!!!!!!"
so whos right? indy bball or boy wonder??
my two cents
boywonder started this by being douchey on indiana's thread where he was simply giving a shout out to eric gordon
boywonder went to work and and probably exposed indiana for at the very least embellishing on his basketball background. I mean maybe indiana was in some way associated with those teams he claims, but was on the practice squad or didnt make the final cut or something. EIther way hes a quality poster and anyone getting all into this bs needs to chill.
But with all that said, I wish it was easy for the ball players on this site to get a run going somewhere so that we could see whats up. Im personally no longer able to keep up with real good players on the court( i dominate my co workers still though weekly), but i bet if we had a 3 point contest i would rain on all you guys college, pro whatever.